Cut Courses when Enrollments Rise, Right???

At Napa Valley College, we cut 10% of our course offerings this year. In theory, we should be offering more courses when enrollments rise, correct?

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — New data shows the number of students attending California’s community colleges hit a record high last year even as the state cut funding to the 110-campus system.

California Community Colleges Chancellor Jack Scott said Wednesday that enrollment rose by nearly 5 percent to 2.9 million students during the 2008-09 academic year.

The community college system had 135,000 more students than the previous year and nearly 400,000 more than had four years ago.

Enrollment is expected to climb higher this year as legions of unemployed workers return to school and the University of California and California State University reduce enrollment.

Community colleges are struggling to accommodate the influx of students after sustaining $840 million in budget cuts.


24 Responses to “Cut Courses when Enrollments Rise, Right???”

  1. 1 Charles McNeil September 3, 2009 at 11:20 PM

    Nothing beats this posting for palpable subject matter. I remember when 35 students per class used to be a lot. Nowadays if you are in a transferable course with less than 45, you’re lucky. I’ve never had to stand outside of classrooms for a lectures because interior seating had been exhausted, until this semester. I’ve never been forced to miss a class because there was literally nowhere to park, until this semester. I’ve never really known the school’s struggles through firsthand experience, until this semester.

  2. 2 marie moussa September 7, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    It is not a good idea to cut courses at California community colleges because a lot of students can not afford to go and study at California state universities; especially, during this bad economy a lot of students can not find a job while their studying and it is hard to get a loan. By cutting courses it was hard for me to register in the classes that are required for my major because they were cancelled or not offered in this semester.

  3. 3 Ruby S September 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM

    I also experienced the crazyness of the budget cut when trying to enroll in classes and finding that I was waitlisted as well as the difficulties with parking. I have to litterally follow people in my car in order to find a spot even though a whole new parking area was just put in. I agree with the above comment that there is going to be a continuous rise in enrollment because of the stress of not being able to take out a loan and not being able to afford to go to the universities.
    It’s really unfortunate for students having to transfer back to the community colleges as well as new students who are the last priority when registering for classes. The cutting of courses could cause students to have to stay at the crowded community colleges longer than planned and even lead to losing their ambition to finish school. It seems like a nasty cycle.

  4. 4 Christopher Morris September 8, 2009 at 7:37 AM

    We’re all feeling the hurt from this economic crisis. This is my first year at Napa and it’s clear to me that it’s much more hectic than it was last year. I was one of the first to sign up for classes and already a lot were full plus i have to get here really early if I want parking. I understand that the budgets were cut and we can’t afford all the courses we used to have but this is not a problem that’s in the college’s hands this is in the state’s hands becasue they’re the ones cutting the budgets.

  5. 5 PANAMA September 8, 2009 at 7:59 AM

    cutting courses at community college is not smart. i dont like this idea. not evryone can afford to go to a csu right from high school or anywhere but they need the classes at a comunity college to transfer to a csu or uc and become what they want to be. if the classes are cut that might make it harder for them to become what they want to be. a lot of pepole come to a community college to finish basic things they need to transfer to a 4 year school and if the community college dosnt offer that for them then what? it just seems like it be a very longer process and more stressful if they cut classes becuase a lot of pepole would have to wait for a class to open and things like that.

  6. 6 David Perez September 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    It is ridiculous how many people are trying to go back to school. It is even more hectic at the community colleges. So why on Earth are classes being cut at this level? I think it comes down to the CCs’ being a midpoint between high school and four year institutions. Highschool is mandatory and most of the universities have alot of power in what gets taken out. The CCs just get the short end of the stick it seems.
    People also should realize that this is the states fault and not the various boards of the colleges. Don’t get me wrong, this makes me angry too (the parking especially), but its one of those things that it is what it is. Were in a tough economic crisis so just put your boxing gloves on and defend yourself. At least were not in a Great Depression or anything.

  7. 7 Deb Snyder September 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM

    I would like to echo David’s comments.

    Yes, it is difficult to park, and yes, standing in line for registrations can be time consuming and frustrating. However (without wanting to sound dramtic or uncaring) those of us who are tenacious are the ones who will get through these times.

  8. 8 Nicole Hernandez September 10, 2009 at 7:25 AM

    I don’t think its fair that they are rising the cost per unit, and cutting classes at California community colleges. They should focus on doing cuts and raising prices on something else, not education. Enrollment this year rose, so they should not be cutting classes and raising prices. What is happening is not right, but during this economic time, all of us students are trying to get an education and do whatever it takes to get it.

  9. 9 Matthew Abang September 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

    I agree that cutting courses at community colleges is not the wisest thing to be doing in this time of economic difficulty. Many high school graduates may feel that it is better to attend their local community college in order to save money. Parents also may not want to spend money on a four year school, especially if their student does not know what he or she is interested in studying.Parking and oversized classes will make getting an education even harder as students will not be able to take the classes they want to take. Parking problems lead to students and faculty being late for class. It is good that enrollment is higher at community colleges. The best advantage to attending a community college is one can be close to home and maybe keep their part-time job.

  10. 10 Kathryn Koller September 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    I definitely don’t understand why they would cut courses when their enrollments rose. How are they going to be able to accommodate so many people with so little choices? Community college is supposed to be that inexpensive alternative instead of going straight into a four year university. But what type of alternative is it if you can’t even fulfill some general edu? The cutting of courses may just scare people away which would then cause a decrease in enrollment…so what is the college going to do then? Add more courses?? It all seems a little backwards and I always thought that with more enrollment the college would then have more money to add more courses and professors.

  11. 11 Gina September 15, 2009 at 7:44 AM

    I think it is a terrible idea to cut courses. I am currently enrolled in a community college and doing everything I can to get the units and classes I need to transfer to a state university. However, the school is making this impossible for me because they lack important courses I need to transfer. While working 30 hours a week to save money to transfer, I am taking 16 units to try and get out of school as fast as possible because it is so unbelievably expensive.

  12. 12 JoAnn Reynolds September 15, 2009 at 6:34 PM

    The cut in enrollment makes very good sense “economically” in regards to public education. Looking at it from a “common sense” aspect, adding classes and programs to accommodate dislocated workers and retrain for the workforce would seem appropriate. The reality is that the community colleges are funded by the state in the form of FTE (full time enrolled students). FTE is based on previous years and if the state is in financial trouble, it can not increase the budgets on this basis. In turn the colleges can not absorb the cost per student above the allocated or allowed FTE amounts. The only resolution for the colleges is to limit the classes and in turn lower enrollment. This is done and growth will remain frozen until the economy becomes stronger and the budgets can be increased.

  13. 13 JoAnn Reynolds September 15, 2009 at 6:48 PM

    Sorry, FTES Full Time Enrolled Student

  14. 14 Amanda Chow September 24, 2009 at 9:15 AM

    Many of my friends go to the Delta community college in Stockton, Ca. and each year there are more and more students. With these budget cuts there are many classes being taken off the course list because the school cannot afford it. My friends say that since there are less courses that it is much harder to enroll into at least 4 classes. I’ve also heard that many of the classrooms are too full and many students have to sit on the floor. The government needs to help out the school education system with all these financial problems because it will take students more time to graduate or transfer, and many students cannot afford to be in school that long.

  15. 15 Kirstie Scott October 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

    I am from Pennsylvania and new to California, so this idea of it being acceptable to attend community college is foreign to me. To be honest even my attending Saint Mary’s even brought up a lot of questions as to how smart/successful I would end up in the future with friends and family. Well over half of the graduates from my school attended the ivy’s or small liberal arts colleges on the East Coast such as Haverford, Bryn Mawr, Williams, or Middlebrry with very reputable names. But looking knowing what I know now, if I could go back I would most definitely cut my costs and attend a JC for two years.

  16. 16 selduhhh October 19, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    I understand the reason why schools have to cut the classes while enrollment has gone up like crazy. It just doesn’t seem fair to the students. I love the feel that Napa JC has in its classrooms, I don’t like classes that have over 200 students. It seems like I would never get help. Hopefully in the future semesters we’ll get eve nmore sections back.

  17. 17 Kali Hardcastle November 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM

    i think that with the enrollment so high to community colleges, its not a good idea to cut courses. especially with the economy the way it is right now, so many people are going to junior colleges to complete their general education and save money, and then transfering to a 4-year insitute to finish the rest of their college education. i dont see how it can be fair to students to pack classrooms full of student to the point where its standing room only when you get to class after just spending a half hour looking for a parking space. i think this just makes it harder for students to concentrate and harder on the teachers as well. my mom is a high school english teacher and even the high schools are making cuts to many courses, so having a class of 45 has become normal. however, the added stress on teachers to teach to larger classes, the students to actually be able to see the professor in the classroom, let alone hear them, doesnt seem worth it to me.

  18. 18 Anna Hernandez November 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    one would think that with a fee increase and higher enrollment, an increase in class offerings and student enrollment would be the result; however, this is obviously not the case in the state of california. although this increase is an inconvenience for students and teachers, it does make sense to increase fees and admit fewer students and offer fewer classes. this will allow CSUs and UCs to take in more money while offering less services (profits will be higher and more money can be put into paying off debts instead of all income going into paying operating expenses and debt slowly increasing in amount and interest).

    i am not for the fee increases but i do believe that the CSU and UC systems are more affordable than other institutions in this country. if a student wants an education, they will pay for it. that’s the mentality the university systems have as well.

  19. 19 Genine Lobo November 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM

    It is quite natural for students to attend community colleges as tution in many colleges have sky rocketed and thousands of people have lost their jobs. Community colleges are a great way for students to finish their general education courses before transferring to a 4-year college. It is horrible that students, who are now paying an increased tution are not able to receive a full class schedule becuase of our poor economy. I know many people who attend community colleges in hopes of transferring after their second year. It is very frustrating that even with this increase in tuition, their 2 year plan may instead turn into a 3 or 4 year plan.

  20. 20 Nick Pasquale December 6, 2009 at 8:05 PM

    Enrollment for community colleges have gone up so much because the price for college has gone up and not many students can afford it in todays economy. Many students are now going to a junior college for two years and then transfering to a four year have they get their AA. So they still graduate with with an undergrad and they only pay half the price than what students who go their all four years pay. And no it does not make sense to cut courses when enrollment rises. You would think they would bring in more money because the enrollment has increased.

  21. 21 Sarah Reddell December 6, 2009 at 11:55 PM

    It doesnt make sense that the schools are doing so poorly even those enrollment is rising. Education is the most important thing.

  22. 22 Luke Napier December 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    I think it is bad that the state of California is cutting community college class. This is a place for those who cannot afford to pay for universities to still gather an education. To take this away from this group of people is taking away from their futures. It is also ridiculous to do so because it slows down the process of entering a four year university for those in the community colleges even more. it reduces the possibility for those to change their current situations and have a better and brighter future. Cutting classes shouldn’t be an option the state should be looking for other ways to make money instead of risking the future of 1000’s across the state.

  23. 23 Nubia Cazares December 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    This is not surprising at all. I definitely expected a rise in community college attendance due to the raise in tuition by the UC and state colleges. Students are no longer available to afford public higher education. I think that community colleges should definitely do their best to accomadate as many students as possible because in my perspective the numbers are just going to continue to rise.

  24. 24 Rochelle Galzote December 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

    The state of California shouldn’t cut back on classes especially since there the number of students going to a community college is rising. Education is really important and it will be hard for people to get an education if enrollment is rising and its hard to get into classes.

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