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Some profs want Cal to stop subsidizing sports
2.3 million dollar salary for a college football coach is ridiculous. There is alot of money to be made in sports. I suggest they use some of their spending money and invest it in other things that might help them gain more money from events or such. Maybe involve the team members in giving back to the community or get a bunch of fans together to raise money for them. Look at how high school kids do sports they have to raise money and come out of pocket. Well if you want to make it big time and make more money than the president then I suggest you earn it. Make those guys put in work.
It is a little absurd that college football is getting so competitive that they are spending more money then they are actually making and then become in debt. Of course it is very generous of UC Berkeley to lend money to the athletic department and even forgiving their debts. You also have to think though that UC Berkeley is in the PAC-10 and have to keep up their football reputation and other sport status. Paying the coaches and other variables at such a high cost to me is not very smart. Yes you get what you pay for most the time, and if the team has a great coach then they will most likely come out as a great team. In my opinion the college and it’s athletic department should work together instead of depending one another. Education and athletics are two major focuses in college so if the college fans and sports participants can also raise money that would create more revenue for the departments and school unity.
In a perfect world, all people would balance their personal budgets, and countries would balance THEIR budgets, and departments within colleges and universities would balance THEIR budgets, but this is not a perfect world.
Much as those of us that DO manage their personal finances so that they don’t run in the red or have to incur debt would like to see these university teams be accountable for their costs, the fact of the matter is that no PAC-10 college or university is going to stop their sports programs just because the team runs in the red. There will continue to be hand-wringing and maybe the athletic department will get their hands slapped for a couple of seasons, but that will be about the extent of it.
If I were a professor at Cal I too would push to stop subsidizing sports teams. There is no doubt that Cal has many talented sports teams, but they should not be favored as much as they are. Knowing that the head coach receives a salary of 2.3 million dollars, I would be extremely mad as a professor. Why isn’t this money paying for the many costs the school has? Education should come first and athletes should come second. Although these sporting events bring a great load of fans and revenue, additional money for example from student registration fees should not be paying for these teams. There should surely be changes made so professors do not suffer as they currently are with furlough days and budget cuts.
This article is a little surprising because with so much revenue coming to the school from selling sport-related memorabilia, it is hard to believe they cannot manage the costs more efficiently. The school system should find better ways of getting the athletes into the school. Full rides, especially for football are an easy way to drain the savings of a school, they should limit the amount of these and would help the problem. Putting a tighter budget on head coaches would inevitably force the coach to make smarter and more productive decisions because they will have less money to spend.
I have played competitive soccer and basketball my entire life, and was pursuing a college where I could both play a sport and get a good education. Towards the end of my senior year, my drive for sports was minimized with the fact that I was “heading into the real world.” I made the personal decision to focus solely on school when I came to college. During my teenage years my coaches and parents always told me that I was a “student athlete,” and student came first. In a perfect world professors would be making large amounts of money because they are teaching the future leaders in society. I think that their needs to be a massive change in both college and professional sports. We are sending the wrong message to today’s youth, the message being that they should try and become a professional athlete rather than go to college.
It’s discouraging to know that some of the tuition money I’ve spent for a UC collage may have been used to fund a sports program that routinely loses money. And I remember a couple of months ago when state collages were going to raise class fees to adjust to cutbacks. Even the sports division needs to share the burden. I think a lot of universities, not only ones in California, have lost sense of their priorities from this article. Even if sports generate a lot of money for them, their focus has always been, and should still be, academics. Just look at the reported salary of Jeff Tedford in the article. Do college professors make as much in comparison, or even half? Imagine what better things a university can do with that kind of money.
I say the nation-wide system needs to be changed, since it sounds like most universities are in trouble from overspending in this area.
The fact that a college coach is make 2.3 million a year and that it is rising is unheard of. Such a prestigous school like Cal should be filtering half of the athletics spending into the education and research part of theschool. The athletes are called student-athletes with the student part being first, the school should see this and realize that college athletics arent what a school should be about. It is also amazing how a school can make so much in income and not be able to efficiently manage there budget. The football team should not have to spnd 65 million thatsjust ridiculous.
What is wrong with these collegiate teams? If they are hurting for money, they need to go out and do those car wash fundraisers or sell Sees Candies…On a more serious note, I don’t have anything against atheletics in college. In fact, I am a huge fan of the Cardinals and nailing them financially would be devastating. I know alot of us love to watch our college football games on Saturdays or even attend live. But the truth is, as some have stated above, students should come first before atheletics.
Nonetheless, I see this as kind of a back and forth situation. For example, if sports did incur a cut, the professors of the universities would most likely be the beneficaries of extra revenue. That would spark alot of heated debate and create civil strife among the universities itself. Again, a easy solution is letting each department raise their own money through whatever legal means they choose to do. But, as stated on top, that is only true in a perfect world.
see the thing about that is alot of thoes big top 10 schools money comes from the sport teams so yeas they sepend alot to kepp the teams they also get alot of money back from the teams bye sealing tickts and stuff like that
In a time where the UC system is laying off professors, denying Californian applicants for higher-paying out of state applicants, and using furlough days to save money, no debt owed to it should be forgiven. The system needs as much money as possible and the last thing I would think for it to do while it is running a huge debt would be to give exorbitant amounts of money away. I remember being a freshman in high school thinking about my life from then on; I thought about getting through my four years there and then pictured myself sitting in a lecture hall at Berkeley or Davis or San Diego. And it is because of stupid financial practices like this that I had to forgo an education that my parents’ tax money has has been subsidizing for decades. As a college student and as a Californian I have to say “screw sports” and encourage the system to divert its more funds to academic areas.
This article in particular, especially caught my eye since this was one of the main topics in the jan term course i took last year. The class was called Intercollegiate Athletics. My view about whether or not universities should subsidize their athletic programs has stayed the same. I think it is wrong. The luxuries of college athletics (more geared to football in particular) has become outrageous. So outrageous that money spent is close to the professional level (minus the salaries paid to the athletes). An example of such luxuries is when cal’s football team spends the night before a HOME game in a hotel. There are so many silly ways the athletic department can cut back without hurting it skill level. Obviously need to do something to stop being in debt because it is not right for the college to have to take money that is for education and waste it on sports. When they do this they make athletics more important than education. Athletics is supposed to be a part of education not the other way around.
To me college football coaches get paid too much. But a football program like Cal brings in a lot of revenue. Having a good program makes alumni want to donate back and it makes the fan base even larger. Cal has a very big fan base, as the football team is probably one of the biggest things that bring in money for the University. But i think that they should budget the spending on football so that the depicit will not be as big.
Budgeting money is a challenge for most people. It’s hard to understand that college athletic departments are struggling considering how much money all the coaches make and all the full ride scholorships that are being handed out. The schools need to evenly distribute the funds. I believe that good sport teams help bring in lots of revenue, and in order to do so they have to spend money, but in the long run I think sports bring in tons of revenue and should be acknowledged.
The money that these college athletic teams are spending is not ideal. Not when we are in such bad economic times. The actual education part of the school is where we need money. The school system need so much money right now, they should not be forgiving the athletic department for such debts.
The last sentence in this article I find causes some faulty assumptions. I agree with the statement that being part of a community is very appealing to young adults being part of something is great. And a college community no less is very substantial, but the fact that they state most people that attend UC Berkeley are there not necessarily for classes but to be part of that community is a very unsubstantial thought. There are many students that attend college whether it be at UC Berkeley or St. Mary’s that are souly there for their higher education.
And now to address the basis of this article, is to say that athletic programs are great, for the students the athletes and for sometimes the school. But first and foremost it’s a school, it’s not a team. So when the academics is suffering whether it be by money or just not doing well because athletes know they don’t necessarily have to do well. It’s a school stop spending millions of dollars to what, get the basketball players nice sweatshirts and how but putting it to new computers or make books a little cheaper.
A 2.3 million dollar salary? For a college football coach? That is insane. We all understand that Cal has amazing sports programs but funding them like they do just seems a little over the top. It would seem that a school such as Cal would distribute their funding more wisely. Or maybe even using some of that funding to help lower the costs of school in general?
the fact that our culture has taken sports and put them on a pedestal where a man or woman can be paid millions of dollars just to tell others to run, and catch, and do other things doesn’t show promise for our economic problem. many people don’t make that much in their entire life, and if colleges take that money and put it into other things such as education in general then I feel we can take a big step of getting out of this economic “rut” in California.
i dont see why college coaches get paid so much. a football coach that gets paid millions is crazy. i love sports and im a huge fan off all sports football basketball and watever but i dont think a college coach should get paid so much. if they were in the NFL then maybe they should get paid that much just maybe. i think teachers should get paid a lot more then they do and coaches should get paid less. the money they use to pay a coach could go to so much other things that are way more needed and if the coach has a issue with that im sure there will be other people that would love to coach for less….lol
College football has one the highest viewer ratings every single year. They have begun to put games on during the week as to increase viewers even more. I know that in my house with my three roommates, a football game will always be on. Because of this, these games and schools pull in large profits to pay for their scholarships and coaches’ salaries. The increasing popularity of college atheletics should not be a large concern. As long as people watch it and enjoy it, the market for higher paying atheletics will only grow.
Although football is a big part of Cal, the football department should be able to maintain itself and not take away money that could be allocated to education, which should be the university’s first priority. This topic becomes complicated when we take into account the fact that football does a lot to promote the school among a wider audience than just collegiates. Without this exposure the school is likely to suffer.
2.3 million dollar salary for the coach? are you kidding me!????all he does is yell, preach, and blow a whistle! the only qualifications to doing his job is watching hours of the NFL. yet there and nuclear science professors who’s salaries dont come anywhere close to that. Half of that could be spent on tutors for half of his players so they wouldnt be missing games nor far below the average student. His salery could be cut and he would still coach the same and his players would still play the same. a debt like this can not be justified nor can it be forgiven. its just not logical on how a sport team can cause that big of a debt. they can still run and operate the same if the stopped being so generous in unneccisary areas.
This article is not surprising at all. There always seems to be an issue between academics and athletics. To be honest, I find it ridiculous how much the colleges are spending on the different athletic teams. I do understand that athletic teams are a part of college and one of the main experiences of attending college is going to different sporting events. But $2.3 million for a college football coach’s salary is ridiculous. College is not the NFL, end of story. When it comes down to rock bottom, college is about academics which means the money should be for academics first and foremost and athletics second. It is completely ridiculous that most of the time the debt that is owed by the athletic teams is completely forgiven. At least if a college is going to give them more money they should have to pay it back. If the sport is not earning enough to pay it back then it should not be getting the money in the first place.
Well,, I think it as this way.
Eventhough, it may costs a lot to maintain the sports team.
But, I do believe that the college’s name value is very
related to the sports team. Having a good sports team is
another way of doing good marketing for their college.
I mean who’s going to hear about the Saint Mary’s in ‘MORAGA’
if their Rugby team or Basketball teams weren’t doing good?
Private school like Saint Mary’s need to spread it’s name
to get attracted, due to keeping their budget in a good way.
This is hard to decide between because sports and college go together. I think the coaches need to see what is happening and man up and take a salary cut they definitely don’t need to be making that much they’re only college coaches…It’s not fair for the college to be willing to keep giving out millions of dollars not knowing when they’ll get it back, but then not do the same to keep professors. This is where i lean towards academics. The point of college is to be educated by professors and since the professors went through years and years of schooling to get where they are they should be paid like the professionals they are. And the college should hold them as top priority. Otherwise the college is what just a camp? Cutting back on sports probably won’t hurt as much as everyone thinks it will…
more often then not the face of these campuses is becoming their football coach. at usc Pete Carrol makes at least 4 times that of the school chancellor, yet i know that Ive never seen the schools presidents face or even know his name. people come to these big schools to be a part of the traditional big school environment, and a football team is a big part of it. with these coaches getting increasingly more interest from nfl programs which offer coaches huge million dollar contracts, the colleges have had to keep with this trend to keep good coaching candidates in college football. There faces represent the school every week, even most of their players never have there faces shown. While their salaries are very high it matches with the trend and the responsibility that they have on their shoulders.
Well thats alot of money. Good for the coach, and the football program, but bad for the rest of the school. It Cal has this money to fund this coach, they should have enough to pay the salaries of every professor. It is almost unheard of that sports should come first. College is an education for the future. Its such a shame that only a select few make it to Pros.
I think that it is ok to cut back on sports team’s budgets, as long as no teams get cut. I do think that the coaches salaries are too much and that is the first thing they should cut back on. I think that having a good coach is important but asking for that much money to coach at the college level is a bit absurd and that salary should definitely not be increasing each year it should be decreasing or remaining the same. It takes a lot for a prestigious college athletic program to maintain a high standard and I am a fan of Cal and its sports program so I would not want to see any teams get cut because they have great athletes there, cut back on the coaches if anything.
Most people would say that the only reason one goes to school is for an education. Yes, others go specifically to play sports. It all comes down to what is more important. To me, academics should take preference. Sports is a career for some, but not for all. Learning can help put us on the path to a successful career. Sports produces many talented players as well. They learn the importance of teamwork, a skill needed at any job. Both sports and academics should be given priorities but more attention should be focused on academics.
People have to remember that football brings in so much revenue for a big school but I do agree that they are being paid way too much. schools need to spend their money a little more wisely and make sure they arent spending more than they are making.
Sports brings in large amount of revenue for colleges, the sports departments should be able to run solely from the revenue they make from viewership, selling memorabilia and ticket sales and not be able to retrieve funds that are allocated towards education. I do believe that these extremely high salaries are getting carried away, but unfortunately as a society we allow it not only in college, but pro sports as well.
Sports or Academics? Let us clarify that there are many students (including me) who delight their free time watching College-level sports. If coaches are receiving high salaries, is just because of their hard work and success throughout their life. So if we need to choose between Sports or Academics, then I pick both.
In my personal opinion I think that education comes before sports. However, we at the college level sports plays a huge role. Especially for a pack 10 school such as Berkeley. I understand the argument between the teaching staff and the coaches. They each have there pros and cons. Although the sports program does spend a lot of money, at the same time it also brings in a lot or revenue. I just think what it all comes down to is for the school to find that balance between sports and academics.
I think school needs to come before sports because if you don’t make it in whatever sport you are playing then you have a degree to fall back on. I understand sports teams bring in a lot of revenue, which is great but if they are going over there budget, they need to fund raise or something. The schools can not put all their money into their sports teams, it needs to be divided equally. Sports should not be eliminated but they need to watch their budget.
im pretty surprised that cal is not managing its funds very well and continuous borrowing money from separate funds from the school. yes the athletics are great there but seriously, a $2.3 million salary for a college football coach. this is so much more than any one professor makes. i think that they are being a little over the top when they are promoting athletics. i think at the point the economy is at, the school needs to adjust its budget a little bit. if they let this continue, who knows how much debt the school will accumulate.
seeing the probability of becoming a pro athlete are so small, I also believe that more money should be spent on education rather then sports. I believe that Athletics also bring in a lot of revenue and this should be thought through when a school decides how much money they are going to put into a sports program.
This is hard. Being an athlete i have to step back and look at this differently. It is hard because as athletes i know that we, as a team need more. We need uniforms to represent our school when we compete and we need equipment so we are able to perform and yes, athletics does spend a lot of money because traveling, clothing, and everything else, added up is extremely expensive but that is how some sports need it to be. Now if i look at this not as an athlete but as a student i completely agree. Sports is important but college is for education not just sports. Sports might help you get through a certain time but education can help you in every situation. And it is better for the general college to have more computers, desks, and buildings.
The athletics department of often most schools is what defines them aside from the educational attainment you could receive. Many students choose which universities to go to depending on those to variables. Spending so much on unnecessary things in the athletics could be avoided by cutting back and efficiently budgeting or allocating the expenses of each team. I think that the sports teams bring so much money in for the school that they should attain some privileges.If they keep the student athletes, coaches and the rest of the team happy, then they’ll get awesome results. But salaries as high as the coach’s are too extreme that maybe they are being too crazy. Cutting back expenses can be done without harming the team’s skills. The extra money can be distributed by the school to improve on other things instead.
Though the athletics at Cal are a big part the football program should not be getting 2.3 million dollars. The chances of becoming a pro athlete are very slim. Instead of the money in sports more should be put towards education. They could slightly the amount the program gets. The sports programs bring in revenue and this revenue should be split for the sports program and for education.
this article makes me think of all the money that is given away at saint mary’s itself for sports. we must have a large recuitment budget to have such a highly ranked b-ball team and all the other sports that give out free rides for sports. what i am trying to say is, what percentage of my own tuition, which is already very high as is, goes to paying for these sports players tuition? and how much is wasted in the larger drop out rate of these players as well?
this is a difficult situation. but when I was looking at colleges, I wasn’t going off base of which school had the best academic. I went with which school can provide and further my skills of field hockey. I understand that not everybody wants to play sports in college but you must admit that theres a large amount of people who do. The budgeting is an issue but I think that if you bring in more income you could spend more income. To better a program, its worth the money if the return profits are beneficial which in sports they are but in academic? they don’t bring any income!
This articles is quite interesting to me. As an athlete I would like to see more money put into sports for better equipment, but at the same token we have much bigger problems. We don’t have enough teachers, supplies, or facilities to teach students talents and information for this state and country to prosper. To think that the UCLA basketball coach is the highest state employee is completely ridiculous. The man marks x’s and o’s on a board and tells kids where to run. He isn’t educating them for the future unless they are moving on to the NBA otherwise we are paying this man millions and millions of dollars to scream his head off about a ball going into a hoop.
While it may seem absurd to spend that much money on the athletci programs we have to remember that our basketball program here at St. Mary’s losses us money as well. However, the sports do creat a sense of comunity and pride within the school which boosts school morale and pride and even becomes a driving point for atracting new and better students to the school. So in the end the plublicity earned by top notch sports programs may in fact be worth the initial upfront cost.
I agree with Alex. The fact that college coaches are making 2.3 million per year is unreal. Not to mention unfair. Of course their job takes a lot of skill and talent but at the same time the ones that should be getting paid that much (doctors, teachers, etc…) receive much lower salaries. Yes, college football is very exciting but the players are student-athletes, not athlete-students. This notion is too quickly forgotten, especially in recent times.
I think that Education and Sports are important but 2.3 million dollars a year is way to much. I think that part of that money should be spent in Education rather than Sports. This are tough times and while the cost of education is increasing dramatically, other areas such College Sports should look more into its budget.
I feel that college football coaches do get paid too much. But College football is one of the biggest sports watched. You cant say that their job is easy or they dont deserved to get paid. I just believe that 2 million dollar salary is a little over the edge.
I feel that you can take part in agreeing with both sides to this problem. Loving sports, i feel that many schools do not put enough money into their athletic programs and many of these programs are affected by it. On the other hand, the same could be said about how at some colleges not enough money is put into the educational programs, and many feel that this is more important because a much larger percentage of students will go on in life making a living of of jobs that do not involve them playing sports.
this just makes you realize that some people pay go to college to get a high education and a better job on the other hand the college pays the athletics to pay good and i am assuming that academically wise it is nothing important compared to sports. I guess it’s talent over brains in this case. It also makes me think about SMC’s athletic department are we spending to much on sports?
This is particularly interesting to me because I took a class on this exact same topic. A college coach being paid 2.3 million dollars is ridiculous, or any coach for that matter. How about paying teachers, doctors, fire fighters, and policemen that much? Without any of the four of those professions are country would be in shambles. Good to know we have our priorities straight.
That is a lot for a college coach to get paid. However I look at it just like every other profession. And I do believe a lot of other people should be making more like teachers because where would anybody be with out them?
I can understand for a professional football coach to be making millions of dollars, but a college football coach to have 2.3 million as a salary is too much. Some of that money should actually go towards the school of each team. This can really help out with things like financial aid and other things. I would also have to agree with Broderick that some of the money should go towards the teachers. Without them, people can’t get to the profession of their choice.
Its funny how they don’t pay the players but those players are making millions of dollars for the schools. I was watching the movie “all about the U” which was about the rise of University of Miami football and the slight fall of the program was when the school found out that the players where excepting money from people who paid them for good play on the field. The players only got 30$ a week for food who where on scholarship. try feeding a 350 pound linemen on 30$ a week it just doesn’t happen. Those players put that school on the map and should of been compensated for that. People enrolled just for the football team.
I read this and all i can think about is that 2.3 million! you have got to be kidding me! for one year coaching football at a college level, the man is making 2.3mil? i dont believe it. his salary alone can pay for a few full-ride scholarships to students that really need it. PRIORITIES is the word for this article.
College is meant to be for higher education, not playing football. If these programs want to stay open and running, they need to be self-sufficient –the Cal football program supports the Cal football program, not the University of California supports the Cal football team. Spending all that money on something that does nothing to increase the level of education or the quantity of students educated, in a HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM, is completely absurd.
I play a sport, so i really would like to have sports around. Yeah sometimes people get carried away being too competitive and all but I don’t think school wouldn’t be the same without sports. Of course academics is important but I’ve seen many situations where sports really motivated them to do well in school so that they can still play their sport. So it’s not all bad, in many situations its a big help.
I think that if a coach produces a winning record he should get payed millions winning football teams and basketball teams produce tens of millions for their schools.
I am a huge advocate for college sports and making sure that he proper funding is spread throughout so that the teams can succeed. Being a baseball player at the college level, I want to know that my best interests are at heart when hiring coaches, and staff. However, I do believe that when coaches salaries get into the 2 million dollar range, it gets a little ridiculous. I know that some of the bigger schools have the pressure to win every year and need to hire big names, but this still is amateur sports and we need to even it out with the education spending as well.
Being an athlete i defintly want sports to stay around, but with that being said no college coach should be paid that much. Thats crazy! Yes, a good coach should be paid well but that money could be spent in a much better way. Give 2.3 million to a coach is what gets people angry about this topic which then turns into people thinking sports should be elimainted. We have to be realistic to what the coaches should be paid.
Sports are fun but they are should not be taken so serious. I have played a sport at the junior college level and i was surprised to find all the perks we got i could not emagine how much money goes into peoople who play at the UC level. while i love playing any sport i also disagree with profesional sports. Athletes, especially in popular sports, make too much money.
This is a sticky situation. When it comes down to it the college cares about money. Berkeley is one of the best UC’s in the state and it will always offer high end education. However, Berkeley also generates huge amounts of income by their athletics, especially their football program. I have no doubt that the Coach makes over 2 million dollars, he is pretty much celebrity status. It is the same reason celebrities make more money than teachers and doctors its because so many people enjoy it and stay faithful to the team. I do not blame Berkeley for putting a lot of money into the athletics, because they will get much more out of it. I can see how this would upset people who are not interested in sports. If one of my classes or programs were experiencing budget issues, I would be angry as well. Berkeley is highly evaluated for its academics and sports, so there should be a balance between the two.
This article just shows how much importance Americans put on sports. Coaches should not be getting paid this much when the school is doing so bad. Money that comes in from memorabilia and sport activities should be distributed more evenly. A coach has an important role, but I would not consider his role more important or even as important as a professor. A professor educates young minds, most of which will go on to have a good job that increases growth in our economy. The coach shows a sport team what to do, but most of his players will not go on to be in the professional league or anything like that. Therefore the professor is better for the economy and should get paid more. Americans should stop putting sports on a pedestal.
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