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Americans growing more skeptical of college motives and costs
After reading this article, it made me think about what my college’s motives are in raising the tuition. Before i never really took time to think about whether they were good motives or not because it just didn’t cross my mind. However, if i were to guess i would think my college’s motives for raising the tuition slightly is justified. I like to think that no one if trying to fool me or my parents. I also wonder, if this is true, how colleges and universities are able to raise tuition if it is not justified appropriately. It doesn’t seem possible, = when the recession has caused people to be smart about the way they spend their money. Seems to me, that the only program within a college or university that has the potential to do so would be the athletic program.
Of course, we the people are growing more skeptical of colleges. Colleges are the only ones that raising cost of tuition for students. The demand is in colleges favor, most people would love to go 4 year college. My dream is go be a Gator at the University of Florida. I can’t afford it.
All college need to look internally at were the money going, the only ones that need to be paid is the teachers. Just look at Napa Valley College, there is president, then 3 vice presidents, 31 people under that and non are teachers (Dean/Supervisor/Assistant) and many more under that before teachers. Why do we need these people?
Teacher and student is what make college run and function. All of college can get rid of jobs that are not teacher related to cut cost. They can then start running internet course to make more money. If college lower tuition, then more student will come that pack classes, which would maximizes profit. Guess what no more money worries for colleges.
Not to excuse the colleges, but with the economy the way it has been over the past year or so, it makes a bit of sense that at the present moment, they may in fact be caring about the “bottom line” a bit more that before. Everyone’s motives changed when the recession hit and as we try and work our way out of it, we see what works and change what doesn’t. I have every intention of continuing on to a 4 year but I know that it’s going to hurt my wallet (as I am paying for my own education).
I agree and disagree with Anthony though. First, to disagree, We DO need those people. But to agree, Teachers do make colleges run and function because that is their job. They teach. Just like the individuals in the admin office do all the administrative duties and those in the financial aid, and library, cafeteria, etc. If we didn’t have those people in those jobs, the college would be a wreck. The teachers, as wonderful as they are, could not keep the entire campus organized with out the help and guidance of all the other staff. If teachers were also doing administrative work, or working in the cafeteria, it would take time away from what they have specialized in doing. Teaching. It all goes back to specialization like we learned about in the first couple chapters.
It’s interesting to me that people are beginning to question the raise in tuition at colleges. Yes, it is more expensive then it has been in previous years, but the cost of living in general has increased as well so why would college tuition be excluded from this increase?
Education is VERY impportant, and it does seem unfair that students are having to compromise their future because of costs, however, I think the issue has only been focused on because of the recession.
It does not make sense to me to raise the tuition any higher. St. Mary’c charges above 55k now and it seems that our money is not even spent well. The food in the cafateria is horrible, building are old and not maintained well, and housing is starting to fall apart as well. I feel that parents spending all this money need to take a deeper look into where all this money is going. It is crazy to pay this amount of money and not even recieve any benifits of many local colleges that have brand new housing, great food, and a good education. I could be taking half my classes at DVC for $25-$40 a class. I would be saving a boat load of money
I also never have thought about what was the actual motive of increasing tuition. I always thought it was for the improvement of the actual school and education system but I guess I was wrong. The raise in tuitions should be just and fair. I know we are in a recession, and I know it hurts the colleges and universities. But it also hurts us (the students and parents). The demand for college and education in general is very high and the colleges should not take advantage of that. Right now it is very difficult for a lot of students and families to afford an education in general. College should be about the students and not the college itself.
“‘Now that times are tough, we are getting a better idea of what you really care about, and it isn’t the educational experience of your students.'”
I don’t think that this quote is necessarily true, but it is a strong statement that stood out to me. While I don’t agree with this, i never thought about it this way either. I’m sure that with the recession we’re in colleges are probably not making as much money as before, but i doubt that raising the prices on everything would help much. With many people losing jobs and they are going to cut on expenses and other stuff as well. I’m sure many people get their bills paid and don’t have the excess money to pay for school as well.
I personally don’t think it’s fair to raise tuition this much. I realize that the cost of pretty much everything is going up but the cost of education should not be raised this much. If school becomes too expensive than many people may opt not to go at all and could end up throwing their futures away. Since a college education is pretty much a prerequisite for a good job in today’s society it needs to be affordable.
In high school, I was never skeptical about college because I believe that college is the road to success in the future. However, now that I’m in college and the tuition for next year will be raise, I feel is the right for the school to do this.
Increasing the tuition will not make the education quality better than it already is and I don’t think we’re going to get any more resources on campus. This is the time of recession and colleges are increasing tuition, I wonder if college is really about education or just something else that you can buy with money.
Ya it sucks that we have to pay for more now for education than we did a few years ago, but it’s not like the colleges are the only ones raising prices on things. Cost of eveything has gone up, which gets passed onto colleges, and therefore onto students. Where would we be if half of the college professors/employees walked out because they weren’t getting paid enough?
Those stats are really staggering. It really is a sign of the times when you have students paying nearly 20 grand a year to go to a university. That’s why you see community colleges, like NVC, that are overcrowded, and the limitied number of classes keeps some potential students out of the classroom. I can see why people are skeptical of universities. We pay all of this money, but some people, with their degrees in-hand, have nowhere to go because the job market is so competitive.
As college costs rise in California, it seems as if they are rising in Oregon as well. People are shocked by the tuition increases because services are only decreasing and so are staff and faculty. I am not becoming skeptical of colleges because they are still teaching the same subjects with the same quality; however, I am becoming skeptical of college administration and their need to increase fees but decrease services. I understand that this increase in profit and decrease in expenses always them to pay off liabilities; however, it is their fault for accumulating debt, not the public’s.
I’m going to college because I want to get specialized skills and knowledge for the job that I want to do in the future. I think most of people are going to college for their future job and success in academic achievement. But what if tuitions and fees of school double like in Oregon? How many people can still have access to high education? This problem is very serious and becoming burdens to students and their family. Schools have to find a way to maintain the quality of education without collecting a huge amount of money from potential students.
This article takes the economy and relates it to a topic that greatly affects me. As I look to further my education as a transfer student, I find that many colleges are becoming very expensive. It is not clear to me that the cost of a higher education should exceed around $10,000 for a decent education. Although school may think they are getting a bigger profit by increasing fees, many will not want to pay for an expensive education. This may be what the article is saying. Schools may get more money now, but they may decrease their money intake later on when students decide to explore other options.
In my honest opinion,I believe there is no reason for college tuition being so high. Whether, State, UC, or Private, all should allow students the opportunity if good students to get the education they need. What was it called, Human Capital: Our knowledge in which we learn from our education thus gets recycled into the economy through our jobs. Which in turn helps make more money and raise our GDP right? I understand we are in a recession and money is scarce,but why raise tuition rates now. We should be accepting more people, more people means more staff, more staff means more jobs to teach teh students, and last more students graduating means more people out getting jobs raising the economy. I forgot our government decided to cut our job too. I am in college and I am thankful I was able to get into a school now. I know many young graduating seniors who are not even getting accepted to some of the most easy to get into schools.Even more, once they are accepted they can barely afford to continue going; which may be why so many Oregon students didn’t graduate. Our community colleges are so impacted and even tehy are setting a limit on how many students they accept and are raising book and tuition prices.
It is sad what price we have to pay to want to learn.
The rise in tuition is based on our cost of living these days. The universities have to raise tuition in order to keep up with the demand of cost of living expenses. I know for most people, college is something that is unaffordable and that’s why most don’t go, but its not the universities fault for the tuition increase. It’s our economies fault. Personally I know what it feels like to not be able to afford colleges that I wanted to go to, but there are alternative ways to get around the system such as scholarships and grants that definitely help.
I think that this is more than a public relations problem. That would be saying that someone in charge of public relations is failing. That doesn’t make sense to me because there is nothing to make the situation look better, there is nothing in the education system that can be saved by public relations. We are already past that point. If you take a look at the spending reports and look at the amount of money that a University president makes, you might want to sit down. UCRiverside wanted a good president when they were going to get a new one but the one they wanted to hire wanted more money. Therefore the president that they did chose was not their first choice. It is all about the money, you have to pay them to get credit for your resume to get a good job. Every bookstore on a campus is making a huge profit, selling your books back to them is a joke. This issue can’t be made pretty, it’s just that bad.
I think that the main reason that tuition costs are going up is the failing economy. If all of these colleges were private schools, then there would be more reasons to doubt the motives behind tuition costs. Although it affects me, it seems logical tht prices are going up if colleges are recieving less funding from the government, so they have to make ends meet somehow, especially if students have high expectations for the types of services that these schools provide.
This are tough times for schools and they haven’t found any other solution to raise tuition, but how is this affecting the education?. The prices are going up but it is questionable that colleges are maintaining the same quality. “People are not buying the arguments of college leaders that colleges need more money to maintain quality and increase enrollment” the report said.
I wonder what is going to happen with those arguments. I hope quality of education is still being considered as a priority and not just as a business.
This is a cycle of problems. Schools can’t produce good education systems without money, and students cant get educations with schools having such high tuition. Schools don’t have a choice but to raise their tuition to keep up with the higher taxes and living expenses, and students are suffering because this doesn’t allow us to get higher education. Education is no longer looked as a right, but is now becoming a privilege.
Raising the tuition is not an option. It would less students graduating because they can’t afford to and less employees to fill the vacancies left over by the recession. The government budget should consist more for education.
Our tuition that we pay at the community college doesn’t even cover 10% of costs to actually run the class, in ten years tuition has barely doubled. Think about costs of upgrading technology that colleges have to undertake every year, tuition is bound to increase also tuition is going to increase over a ten year period strictly because of inflation. This article did however have some good statistics about how people are viewing college as more of a necessity, it shows that our society is coming to the conclusion that higher education is extremely important.
College is already expensive as is and raising tuition will just make it harder for students to continue their education. They say it all evens out by us making money and it going back into the economy but it should not be a reason to raise prices.
Continuing to raise college tuitions is just an absurd thought. These numbers on people thinking that having a higher education is a benefit is no surprise or the number on those who think that a higher education is not available because of cost. Schools are starting to lose their credibility by lowering the standard of what is being taught and this is an issue because money shouldn’t establish how good your education will be. A lack of money should not stop one from their education, but a lack of effort in their studies should so.
I personally think that if the tuition keeps getting higher our society will become so uneduacated. Some people can’t afford to go to college as it is let alone if they raise it. People will soon just drop out or not go at all anymore. Then what? We need to get a college degree to be successful for the most part. So why make it harder for people to acheive that? Not just for their own sake but for our socity and un future generations.
I would have to say that I myself is even growing a little skeptical about how colleges are are turning out. Everywhere college tuition is going up and in California it isn’t as easy to get admitted and it certainly has seen its hikes in fees. Admitting less students doesn’t seem like the answer because schools obviously make their money from tuition, books, etc. Even with a slight increase in tuition and fees seems like it should help get more students in, not weed them out. Seeing tuition almost double over the past decade seems like it should help the schools, not bring them down. Where is the extra money going? More students equal more money.
Its good to be skeptical. Ask questions, making sure you are going to college for the right reasons. Yes education is getting more expensive but i believe that the quality of the education one is getting is up to the person. A person recieves what they put in. So if a person has to pay a lot of money that person better make it worth it.
It is sad when they say that colleges care more about the “bottom line” than the quality of their education. It seems to be true with all the classes and programs that they are cutting. They are cutting classes and raising tuition which is really turning prospective students off. It is a shame that deserving students can not afford to go to their dream college because of its costs. ‘Now that times are tough, we are getting a better idea of what you really care about, and it isn’t the educational experience of your students.’For the amount of money that people pay for college, they should get the quality education for their buck. Hopefully one day the economy will be at a point where they do not have to take money from schools and that all the programs, clubs and classes will be available to all students.
To be honest, I would have to agree with this article even though it is super disappointing. I especially think it is true for UCs and CSUs. UCs keep changing policies that seem to make absolutely no sense other than the fact that because of them the college is making more of a profit. The college world is an extremely scary place now. Students with 3.8 GPAs are having trouble finding places to attend and those are above average students. More colleges need to be available for more affordable prices.
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