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CNN Fact Check: How do California’s hikes in college costs stack up?
Although the CSU and UC systems have had fee hikes while at the same time decreasing services, higher education in CA is still affordable compared to private schools in CA and public and private institutions around the country. Tuition at a CSU is around 2000+/- for FT students compared to around 30000+/- at a private school. Although a CSU may be “less prestigious” than a private school or a UC, it is far more affordable than other schools in the state and throughout the country. Fee hikes are upsetting but in the end, California residents have a great deal in the palm of their hands. Unfortunately, many CA residents do not realize this.
Even though there are been price hikes, Californians attending public colleges or universities are still at a benefit when compared to other states. However, if price hikes continue, this gap between California and other state public education will begin to get narrower and narrower. Hopefully this increase in tuition will begin to level out over the next year or two. I think most californians are upset about the price hikes since it has been a bit drastic. after you become used to a certain price it is hard to try and manage your money in a way where you can afford the spike in prices. I also think this is especially troubling to those students who pay for college on there own. Most being full time students who have a part time or even full time job. Thus this hike in prices can be strenuous.
Ok, so California is a “fair bargain” compared to other states, but it still doesn’t change the fact that it still makes it difficult for people to continue with their education. I agree that CSU’s are more affordable alternatives but it sucks that some people will settle for CSU when they’d prefer an education at a UC. I feel this hike will cause nearly all of the lower income families to settle, which, as discussed in a previous blog, will reduce the diversity within UC’s and private schools. That can’t be good. So California is not as bad as some states doesn’t make it acceptable.
This article seems like it makes a good point. Our higher education may be compared to other schools a bargain, however why compare ourselves to a different state? There is a reason why many perfer the UC system over many other colleges. It is a well respected system and they are not gaining many new fans as they decide to increase the tuition costs this coming fall. Is this article telling me that I should be thankful that our costs are not that of other students elsewhere? I cannot be convinced, because a change can happen, i shouldn’t just give in to the ‘facts’.
I definitely agree with Christopher. Even though California’s higher education is cheaper compared to other schools of the nation, it doesn’t help the fact that the cost of going to a good quality school or possibly, one’s dream school is rising rapidly and becoming out of reach. The statistics shows this. This year, average instate fees to attend state college come to a total of $5,996. However, in the year 2011, undergraduate fees total to $10,300!!! Just by looking at the numbers feels intimidating. It would be nice to know that even though the higher education of the state is cheaper, people are working to keep tuition low while maintaining a high quality.
Dispite an increase in college tutition in the past few years, California schools are still relativly cheap, in comparison to Private colleges and going to school out of state. I feel that schools should be the last to be increased/cut compared to other areas in California that could increase. Its already hard on students as it is to make money while in school and then factor in an increase to pay for school, makes it very hard. Hopefully the cost for school will even out soon.
While California’s higher education is a “good deal” when compared to others, I don’t think it changes that the fact that it’s still becoming unaffordable for many. Those who are unemployed, struggling, losing homes probably could care less that paying thousands of dollars per semester is a good deal when compared to other schools! Furthermore, there are so many people out there with degrees who can’t get jobs…I find it hard to spend so much money with the idea of bettering your life only to be in debt with school loans and possibly unemployed!
Public college students still benefit from the so called hikes. Private schools in California are extremely expensive and tend to be out of the reach for people who can not afford the education unless a scholarship is awarded. Schools should be the last thing that are increased because it just makes it that much less accessible to people trying to learn and used their personal skills in a given job. Schools are the foundation to a person’s life and is the key to success and there should be no reason why getting a college education should be a problem.
I believe that if you look at the salary figures for someone with a college degree, and someone without a college degree, ON AVERAGE, the person with the college degree makes much more money over there career. The proof is in the statistics and if you research this, you will find out the numbers. I believe that a degree is very important!
Any student that is gets some type of education will receive some kind of benefit, but it is good to hear that California’s public colleges have a lower price tag than the other states. These so called price hikes are becoming little overwhelming though because most Californians are not use to them. We have stayed in comfort zone but now the gap between the California public colleges are slimming down to the out of state schools. I feel though that you have to take inconsideration that Californians pay higher taxes than most states, and a lot of our market prices are generally higher than other states so I feel that we could almost even out in price when the college tuition is added in. I guess all we can do is hope we break even in the end.
The reason why people of have such a problem with the price of schools being raised is because it is not the norm. Change is bad with it makes a burden on the majority. But seriously why does the price need to go up so high. It might have suited the population if they told them where this money is going and why the needed it.
I am a little shocked to know that tuitions and fees in public colleges/universities here in the US are generally expensive compared to the ones in Japan. And now they are putting more pressure on cash-strapped colleges/universities to manage finance by cutting the number of classes, teachers and most importantly, raising the school tuitions. Even the increase of double digit numbers in tuitions are very big and more students find it difficult to have access to public colleges for higher education.
Even though the state school tutition prices are continually rising lately I feel that it no matter how much an education costs it is still worth it in the end. Students should still put themselves in school even if they have to put themselves into debt with student loans. Getting a college level education in the end will give you a better out come. When applying for jobs you wil stand out more than the person next you if you have a higher level of education. Now-a-days you need more and more qualifications to get a job, so why not put yourself in some debt to get a greater ending result?
I am defeinitely not happy about the fee hike, especially since I just left my full time working life to go back to school full time. Makes me wish I had done this sooner. But I guess I still can’t complain, seing that it could be higher if I lived in other states. And I plan to attend a a CSU, not a UC or private school, so hopefully I can manage with the cost or try to get some financial aid.
I agree that California schools should not be compared to other states because the cost of living is generally higher in California. The cost of private schools in California is comparable with out of state tuition for a California resident whether they attend public or private. I’m sure that OSU or Univ. of Washington have similar hikes in their fees for residents and it would be comparable to what California residents are going through. Education costs have gone up like everything else and in order to keep good teachers, the students are going to have to absord those costs.
California is a reasonable bargain compared to other states, but even though it is still very difficult for people to continue with their education. CSU’s are much more affordable but how well is the CSU system compared to the UC system? Why should people have to settle for an education when education should be fair play. California may not be as bad as other states but I don’t think it makes it right or acceptable. We all want to get that college degree and be able to get a job and keep it.
Even though California may have an advantage in lower college fees and tuition compared to other states, it does take a toll on students who have to pay more due to the budget crisis. Colleges might be cheaper, but the standard of loving in California is much higher that that of other states. Higher tuition rates are affecting students possibilities of earning their degrees.
I agree with a lot of these posts on the fee hikes. No one wants to be forced to pay more money, it’s only natural. Although California does have the advantage with lower college fees, the double digit increase percentage affects people’s pockets no matter where you are. The statistics on the benefit of a degree is outstanding and it has so much more benefits that it makes me want to obtain a degree that much more. I think that if there are more scholarship opportunities and more student loans available would help ease the pain of the hiked prices.
Although California’s cost to get an education are relatively low compared to other states, it does not change the fact that prices are not exactly cheap and they are in fact going up. This “bargain” may be gone soon, and with that loss will come many students who will not be able to put themselves through college, regardless of how the costs to get an education in California versus other states add up.
When I look at the riots that Cal had over the increase in their price of education it kind of pissed me off. When we look at public schools, and private schools in California the price gap is astronomical. It is astonishing that these people would be so upset over the “hike” in price. But when I look at it schools should be the last thing that should be increased because if we can’t educate more people, then the world we live in today will at some point decline to a point of no returnee.
I really don’t care what this article has to say about how California public universities are a relative bargain. Bargain?? Are you kidding me? How is a younger student with no education supposed to be able to pay for college when his/her parents are not contributing at all? I just had a conversation with my sister about this the other day.. it’s no wonder that many American’s put school off, drop out, or never graduate! It definatly shouldn’t be this hard!
Sure we might be a bargain compared to other state schools around the country, but that doesn’t change the fact that most of us have to work through college in order to survive. Which can effect our grades. Bring up financial aid and I might laugh. Sure it helps a little, but when you’re forced to work in order to pay rent and all other expenses you won’t receive as much aid as if you didn’t work. Almost seems like a never ending cycle. And what’s up with the fact that you have to be 24 to be considered an independent student? Are you kidding me? Many of us are independent at age 18 and never receive a dollar from our parents for school. They should change that to at least 21! Maybe that’s yet another reason why so many students don’t complete college right out of high school.
California public schools are a bargain compared to many other states. This is an accomplishment in my opinion. As much people and students we have in this state it is an awesome deal for us. Now this price hike is still under most states and we should be thankful for that. Although its starting to increase which is worrying, we should be thankful as of now that we are still below the national average. Getting a degree in these times is extremely important. Students should do anything they can to get the money to pay for it.
Any college education, in my opinion, is beneficial. Public education is still a bargain compared to private schools.I think this is could be seen as an opportunity for our state. On the other hand, public school prices are still out of reach for students who are financially independent.
Although prices have risen in California, it is still a lot cheaper compared to other states. Education in the US as a whole is extremely expensive and to be able to have education in a state of California is a huge advantage. I believe the only reason this is causing an uproar is because of the prices went up all of a sudden, allowing people to question what is happening in the government. Even though prices rose, they are still relatively low.
Tuition rates in California are comparatively lower than other states but these fee hikes discourage students from diversifying their options. All states should be competitive in gaining certain students in enrollment.
Due to the recession and budgetcuts a lot of graduates decided to skip a hiher education and moved straight into the work world so that they could start making mony as soon as possible. I do not think that this is a very good idea because i believe a college degree is very important.It is not always feasible to get to go to college which is very understandable, howevr, it is a lot easier to pay for college now. All you need to do is not be lazy, a well rounded person can get good money for school by applying for scholarships.
I know we all dislike the increase of higher education tuition. However, I believe a 4-year college degree really worth the investment of money put into it. Nowadays, it is not easy to get a job even with a college degree. As long as California is still offering a solid public higher education schools, students should take advantage of it. The extra investment is worth it.
It seems to me that a 32 percent increase in tuition fees is crazy. Raising fees and cutting services does not seem like a good way to entice students to attend higher education. So they reduce the amount of students accepted, but raise tuition fees, does that mean when they start accepting more students again fees will go down?
even with the recent cuts in the school budgets and the addition of more fees that would bring the tuition of the state schools up thousands of dollars, it is still a great deal. this has to do with the fact that every single student that goes their has their degree subsidized by the state, no matter how you add it up it is basically free money that the state is giving you. so is it a good deal? most definitely.
Yes state schools in California have increased dramatically, but comparatively to the rest of the country we are doing ok. And of course California’s higher education is still a good idea, and Arnold has budgets $305 million to go back into the schools. Everyone is hurting from the debt we are in, but not going to school will not save you money. In the long run, your education is in an investment, and you will receive a greater return for the money you put in.
The higher cost of education to those in the California education system may think it is unfair, but compared to many other states one is quite fortunate. With certain budgets bringing money back into education is a wise idea, it still does not fix the inadequate job it does. Schools like St. Mary’s that do have a higher tuition are able to provide their students with the right atmosphere, but comes at a big bill at the end of the day. This may seem unfair but education can be a indicator of how financially stable one can possibly be.
I believe that the education in California is one of the best, and that is why it is the most expensive.Although prices have risen in California, it is still a lot cheaper compared to other states. Education in the US as a whole is extremely expensive and to be able to have education in a state of California is a huge advantage. Although the prices are high,and the benefits are large i still feel that the state should do everyone some justice, and allow more scholarships and student loans. This will not only help the hole burning in our pockets but encourage everyone to attend school.
The cost of tuition may be raising, but it will always be worth it in the long run. A college degree is worth drastically more than a high school diploma in the long run. And state schools will never catch up to the cost of a private college such as saint marys.
First, that’s bad news that school fees are increasing in California. Do we have alternatives here though? (I am simply asking because zealous protesters seem to criticize for budget cuts and increase in tuition while not really telling us a better option in this financial crisis.) If we are to accept the fact that we are going through one of the worst days of our time, let’s at least show some optimism here. More expensive school fees and more competition to get into the course mean one’s opportunity cost is also increasing. One of the problems California had in the past was a high drop-out rate especially among community colleges. That was such waste of time and resource for all. With education getting more expensive, students now have more incentives to really capitalize on the opportunities they got for all the financial sacrifices they made.
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